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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:23 pm 
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Weather Station: WEATHERWISE WH1080
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I have no idea why your other data would be incorrect. Everything else seems OK with my setup. The only thing that is incorrect on Weather Underground (& also in the WUHU GUI) for me is wind speed (including gust).

WUHU is posting numbers that don't match anything that I can readily see at least. The data file WUHU exports shows the same numbers for the fields Wind Speed & Wind Gust but none of those match what it sends to WU. WUHU appears to be only looking at the current wind speed field in currdat.lst & keeping track of wind speed & gust based on that alone, probably using a running average & windowing. Apparently the gust data is not written to currdat.lst by Heavy Weather (the service, assuming that is what actually writes to that file) so WUHU has no other choice.

I'm not sure if the history file written by Heavy Weather is any better (since it's binary & not readily viewable). Assuming it matches the data shown in the Heavy Weather GUI under the Data tab, it is closer to the numbers displayed on the console & in the HW GUI, but still not exact. I guess the only way to get the same data shown on the display is to use a direct connection. Lame.

This seems to be entirely a La Crosse software issue - junk software written by lazy software engineers. The hardware seems OK so far.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:25 am 
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Location: Falcon, Colorado
Weather Station: LaCrosse WS-2813U - WUHU
Operating System: Win XP SP3
Well I figured out my barometric pressure problem. Seems when I was setting WUHU up, I saw where you entered your altitude on the Tweaks screen and had enabled to send QNH to CWOPS. I've now turned it off a few hours ago and can see my graph is now normalizing and matching other stations around me...

I haven't looked into the windspeed yet. Could it be that WUHU is sending a 10 minute average speed or somesuch? Under Tweaks there is for Weather Underground to always report average wind speed and pressure.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:01 am 
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Location: Houston
Weather Station: WS-2813UT-IT
Operating System: Win7
mfrazzz- First, I was to Thank You for posting this information and am impressed with your site.

I also bought the same unit and have followed you post but am stuck on one thing, hoping you might be able to help. Here is what I have down so far.

-Heavy Weather Installed and collecting data.
-WUHU Installed and is reading the data from Heavy Weather. (it is uploading to Weatherunderground site as well)
-I have WUHU Outputting the currdat.lst with Write Extended Data enabled and pointing to a data.lst file. it looks to be working.

After that, you post jumps to having a working easyweather.dat file. I am a little lost on that part. Can you tell me what you did to get the .dat file?

I installed Cumulus and see how to apply the .dat file, but am stuck on that part.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank youm
Kevin


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:42 pm 
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Location: Glasgow
Weather Station: LaCrosse WS2813
Operating System: Windows 7
I was coming to ask that exact question, got it all working up to that point.

The .lst file it's outputting looks fairly standard, ie I can open it up and the text is all readable and looks to be in a format that cumulus might be able to understand, I can't get cumulus to show anything though, tried various file extensions and various options within cumulus.

Any help would be great.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:10 pm 
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Location: Falcon, Colorado
Weather Station: LaCrosse WS-2813U - WUHU
Operating System: Win XP SP3
KDaddy wrote:
After that, you post jumps to having a working easyweather.dat file. I am a little lost on that part. Can you tell me what you did to get the .dat file?

Well, the post didn't jump, I referenced another thread that had a file you need and how to use that file in WUHU. Since apparently this wasn't completely clear (after rereading it, I can see where that could be missed), I've updated my post to hopefully make the instructions more clear, but in a nutshell, you have to go here: viewtopic.php?p=37432#p37432 and get the file in that post and then use what I posted to set up the "Action" in WUHU and it will create the easyweather.dat file.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:16 am 
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Location: Houston
Weather Station: WS-2813UT-IT
Operating System: Win7
Thank you for all your help.

Are you having any weird issues with your rain sensor ready false readings? Mine is acting crazy. Ready 2inches of rain when there is no rain outside.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:50 am 
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Location: Falcon, Colorado
Weather Station: LaCrosse WS-2813U - WUHU
Operating System: Win XP SP3
No. My problem (right now) with the Rain Sensor is that since my precipitation is in the form of snow and with my altitude, I don't get any readings, as it just evaporates. May have to look at doing some type of heating element mod that I've seen in other forums so the snow melts when it hits (but even then, I know I'll still have evaporation because of my climate here).

But so far, I don't get readings like you are talking about. Have you tried pulling the battery on the rain gauge and then resyncing with the unit?


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:02 am 
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Location: Houston
Weather Station: WS-2813UT-IT
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Wow, dont have the Snow issue in Houston!

I have factory reset the devices with no luck. I did the tipping test (earasing the rain amount and pouring enough water to make it click 10 times)
I am supposed to get .10inch reading. I get 2.59inch. If you do the calculation, 2.59 is .10 in mm.

The other odd thing is, it keeps calculating and keeps doubling the rain amount. That .10inch of rain has turned into 40inches of rain in the past few days. very strang.

I have an open ticket with La Crosse....


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:04 am 
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Location: Dallas, OR
Weather Station: La Crosse 2813U-IT
Operating System: Windows 7
I have followed mfrazzz's advice. I have everything set up exactly as stated. Heavyweather receives the data from my LaCrosse 2813. WUHU then receives the data, and reads the currdat.lst. It then creates an easyweather.dat file.

I have looked at the easyweather file with a text editor. The only difference that I can see is that it is importing everything into F instead of C.

It looks like this: 2012-02-11 16:55:12,47.7,80.0,41.9,47.7,47.7,180,0.0,0.0,30.17,30.17,0.00,0.00,0.54,74.5,39.0,N/A,N/A

The problem is that I cannot get Cumulus to see the Easyweather.dat file even though I have pointed it at the file with the Browse button. It still displays all zeros in all categories and histories. Any help would be appreciated.
What am I missing?

I have to use this setup instead of offset, as I have a LaCrosse 2813 with a USB.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:49 am 
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Location: Dallas, OR
Weather Station: La Crosse 2813U-IT
Operating System: Windows 7
Follow up to my post:

Had the wrong WUHU action.txt. Used the Dave Digby one now, so corrected to C instead of F. A copy of the output of the Easyweather.dat file is as follows:

,2012-02-12 00:38:03,2012-02-12 00:38:03,,38,24.0,89,3.9,2.3,3.9,,1021.00,0.0,,0.0,,,S,,,,0.00,,,,13.72

It still appears as if Cumulus is not reading the easyweather.dat file, as most parts of the display still show zeros. Only "recent extremes" in the Cumulus page has any data. All other categories still show a zero.

Reminder: I am using a LaCrosse 2813, so I need to use Heavyweather to send to WUHU to create an easyweather.dat file for Cumulus to read.

It is frustrating to see the easyweather file update, but no changes on Cumulus. Any help would be appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:30 am 
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Location: Sanday, Orkney
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,2012-02-12 00:38:03,2012-02-12 00:38:03,,38,24.0,89,3.9,2.3,3.9,,1021.00,0.0,,0.0,,,S,,,,0.00,,,,13.72

I pasted your data into a file called easyweather.dat, and configured Cumulus to a station type of 'easyweather.dat', set an interval of 1 minute, pointed Cumulus at the file, and then restarted Cumulus. After a minute, it read and displayed the data. I changed the 'reading time' in the file, and some of the data, and after another minute Cumulus displayed the amended data. So I have no idea why it doesn't work for you. Perhaps you could show a screen shot of your station settings?

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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Location: Dallas, OR
Weather Station: La Crosse 2813U-IT
Operating System: Windows 7
Thanks...your comment about set the interval to 1 min caught my eye...I had it set for 5 minutes. It picks up the data now.

For clarificiation, why did it never pick it up when set to 5 minutes? Seems like it should not matter, but after an hour or more, nothing would appear. One minute works great.


Down in the lower 48, most of us use F, just like we measure our speed in MPH. I am going to rework the action text to set it up for F, inches, and MPH. I will post it if it works.
BTW, for those following the thread, I had to literally put the text from the action.txt in the actions box. Pointing at the action.txt did not appear to work for me. I had to place the actual command line in the action.

Steve, thanks for a great program...going to work on getting it running on my website after the conversion to F. Will post the link later.


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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:15 pm 
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mahoneyoregon wrote:
For clarificiation, why did it never pick it up when set to 5 minutes? Seems like it should not matter, but after an hour or more, nothing would appear. One minute works great.
I've just tried a setting of five minutes, and it read the data and displayed it after five minutes.

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Down in the lower 48, most of us use F, just like we measure our speed in MPH. I am going to rework the action text to set it up for F, inches, and MPH.
Can you not just change the units in Cumulus, or do you need to do this for some other reason?

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 Post subject: Re: La Crosse 2810 Support
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:27 am 
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Location: Dallas, OR
Weather Station: La Crosse 2813U-IT
Operating System: Windows 7
I had weird readings when I originally converted to F using Cumulus. It showed 106.9 degrees F, when it was 45. I assumed that you had to input it in F in easyweather.dat file.

I just tried it again, changing the settings within Cumulus, and keeping the original easyweather (C) file. THis time everything worked great. It may be because it restarted due to loss of incoming data, so whatever was causing the erratic readings cleared. I love the ability to change between C and F on the fly (knowing that the historical records will be comingled). Once again, thanks for a great software package.


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