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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:43 pm 
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Notice there's no F to C conversion ? Both my temps are in F or is that the Low/High for the day?

The 2 temperatures are the current temperature and wind chill. (Sorry: may not be too relevant to you...)
They are both F because that's what they are in the realtime.txt. No conversion done.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:46 pm 
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Yes, I realise that, but your screenshot of the gadget pulling my information from my webserver to your gadget displayed it differently, i.e. hPa rather than mb as I have it set in Cumulus and on my weather station - and presumably as it uploads it in the realtime.txt file? So I was just curious to know how it therefore shows it as an hPa value in your gadget? Do you see what I'm getting at? Just curious to understand it!

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:53 pm 
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:?:
I didn't append a screenshot of the gadget showing your realtime.txt, did I :?:
But I can:
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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:00 am 
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dane wrote:
Steven and Michael:
this is what the gadget shows for your realtime.txt:
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Sorry! Am a bit confused then about your earlier post on the previous page where you showed a screenshot of the gadget with the text, as quoted above.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:06 am 
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Sorry! Am a bit confused then about your earlier post on the previous page where you showed a screenshot of the gadget with the text, as quoted above.

Ah - that was Steven aka akasonny, Cactus Junction, not Steve!

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:11 am 
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:lol: Thanks! All confusion over! (Explains why it was showing slightly different readings from mine!) It all makes sense now!

But once again well done and thanks for a brilliant re-design of this gadget, so that it actually works OK! :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:18 am 
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Looking again at the post which caused confusion, I see you referred to Steve and Michael and assumed Steve was me, and then in the screenshots, the first was so obviously not mine (the one which was Steve's I realise now) but the second one (presumably Michaels) was very close to my own readings, and thus assumed you were referring to mine, as the other Steve and I were (I think) the only people to post to this thread since your intial post earlier with the new gadget. Confusion then ensued....

Too may Steve's! I come across this problem often....

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:21 am 
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...and I do see now that Michael did post early on in the thread also having problems....

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:19 am 
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Its working here now, finally. Nice to see and a handy gadget.

To minimize the confusion of the "Steves", my nicname is Sonny and it works for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:47 am 
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A slight issue noted with this gadget is that it doesn't always update the data. It will do for a short time but then seems to stop and just sits there showing the last data it downloaded. Clicking the settings button and then straight away the OK button, it updates instantly.

Initially thought this ws an issue just here, but have tried it on a friends PC and does the same there too.

Hopefully this is something which can be fixed, as my (local) friends who tried it earlier on their PC thought it was a brilliant gadget too!

What seems to be happening is that it continues collecting data until it can't, maybe the bandwidth is being used by email polling or web surfing (although I am on a 50MBit Cable connection) and once it cannot retrieve a data set it sits there and doesn't try again.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:17 pm 
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What seems to be happening is that it continues collecting data until it can't, maybe the bandwidth is being used by email polling or web surfing (although I am on a 50MBit Cable connection) and once it cannot retrieve a data set it sits there and doesn't try again.

Next time it occurs, could you please check the realtime.txt that feeds the gadget and tell me if its date/time stamp differs from what the gadget shows?

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:51 pm 
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Thanks for the reply!

I had set the realtime.txt file to upload to my server space every 3 seconds, but reset it last night to 10 seconds to see if it helped. The gadget is currently set to download data every 10 seconds.

Having just looked again, the gadget stopped polling the text file at 11:20:07

I think the realtime.txt file would of course be up to date as the Cumulus Realtime page I have updates ok, and this is the data string from the txt file grabbed from http://www.imagearchitect.co.uk/weather/realtime.txt by entering this in a browser:

12/01/10 12:41:11 1.8 94 0.9 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 0.0 1002.6 --- 0 mph C mb mm 44.6 -0.9 2.5 2.5 1.0 21.2 40 1.8 +0.1 1.9 11:57 1.0 04:40 114.0 06:50 114.0 06:50 1014.8 00:04 1002.6 12:33 1.8.9 896 13.4 -0.1 -0.1 0 0 0 0 0.0 22 1 0

Obviously, as this data updates every 10 seconds, it will have a different time stamp, as soon as the gadget stops getting data.

However, if therefore in a session, the gadget fails to download one data set, would this cause it to stop trying again?
Having said that occasionally I get an error screen on the gadget about unable to connect to server, but it then auto refreshes ok without my intervention....

I have no real understanding of how you designed the gadget - I'm not a software designer and don't understand it! But, trying to think logically, is this issue perhaps something to do with the frequency the gadget downloads data compared to the frequency it is uploaded? i.e. if it sees a data time stamp the same as the last one it got, it stops getting data??? Therefore, decreasing the frequency it gets data, to say 30 sec or 60 secs might help?

I'm not familiar of course with how this gadget is designed to work, but am trying to give you as much information as I can.

Let me know if you need me to try anything else!

Good luck!
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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:07 pm 
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I'm not familiar of course with how this gadget is designed to work

Makes it two of us :D I, too, am not familiar with the inner workings of its design (done by Daniel Lintott).
I simply modified it to read from realtime.txt - but left the communication parts untouched.

One thing you could do for me to help me understand where it hangs: turn on debugging:
- stop the gadget
- create an empty debug.txt file in its directory:
C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsSidebar\Gadgets\cumulusih.gadget
- restart the gadget

When it next hangs: stop it and attach the debug.txt file (- or at least the last part of it if it is too gigantic...)

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:27 pm 
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In Cumulus control panel, see if this makes any difference (good or bad)

Configuration / Internet Settings / Site/Options

.. Web settings: Make sure "Use FTP rename" is ticked, and "Delete before upload" is NOT.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
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Beteljuice: thanks for helping :clap:
Maybe you can also tell me the difference between a
Code:
xmlHttpObj.open('GET'
and a 'POST' ?
(the code used to have a POST, but that caused hangs for some users, so I changed it to a GET)

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