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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:00 am 
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The forecasts are actually 1 level too bad, and the "No Forecast" was given the "Fine" graphic.
Ergo forecast is artifically bad and the Davis installation has Cumulus forecast turned 'off' so displays the fine graphic instead of a 'blank'

ib has the fixed code in hand. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:07 am 
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Website and C1 screen are showing "Unsettled, some precipitation" when the gadget is as the pic. Suggests the error is coming from C1?

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:16 am 
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As I understand it NZ is "Unsettled, some precipitation" and in some areas a lot of precip atm !

Don't forget there are a limited number of graphics which have to show some subtly different forecasts.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:03 am 
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Not in Auckland....we are having a drought. South Island is copping the bad weather. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:30 am 
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Super-T wrote:
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In reference to the forecasts as shown on the 3 gadgets i have running temporarily.
There seems to be a problem with the forecast being wildly inaccurate as shown by the first and last gadget, both are fine offset and the centre one is a davis.
Over the last week we have had fairly settled weather, no rain and lots of sun but the forecast has been nowhere near what it is currently.
It may be that the formula doesn't work too readily for Auckland as it is very changeable.
Any thoughts on how to improve the forecasting? Pressure is set to 971 and 1036 in my case.


Yes, despite lowish pressures (1000-1008 hPa) the last several days, weather has actually been reasonably settled. Those pressure values usually correlate with unsettled conditions here. I suspect its the pressure that is throwing the forecasts off...my Davis forecast has also been incorrect for several days, quite often mentioning things like precipitation likely, possibly heavy, windy.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:24 am 
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Are you sure that the Davis is outputting a forecast value, and not just 0 like mine does?

Also, this might be a bit confusing since I think most people looking at the icons would be assuming current conditions rather than forecast of which the value in realtime.txt is the latter.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:34 am 
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TNETWeather wrote:
Are you sure that the Davis is outputting a forecast value, and not just 0 like mine does?

Also, this might be a bit confusing since I think most people looking at the icons would be assuming current conditions rather than forecast of which the value in realtime.txt is the latter.


Hmm, according to the wiki: "The number of the current forecast as per strings.ini. If the forecast is not being provided by the station and not being generated by Cumulus a value of 0 (zero) is returned "
My realtime.txt has a value of 24 for this parameter (Precipitation, very unsettled). So not sure why it shows up different on Terry's gadget.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:41 am 
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The forecasts are actually 1 level too bad, and the "No Forecast" was given the "Fine" graphic.
Ergo forecast is artifically bad and the Davis installation has Cumulus forecast turned 'off' so displays the fine graphic instead of a 'blank'

ib has the fixed code in hand.

Correct:
1. the background picture is the forecast, field[48] in realtime.txt (first field being [0]). No add'l logic in the gadget.
2. current version is 1 level too bad in current code (will be corrected in next version)
3. Davis stations have 0 in field[48]: no forecast, and show 'fine weather' in current version, will show blank in next
4. the gadget has 11 pictures to choose between for the 26 different positive forecasts (plus zero and negative values)

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:03 am 
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Maintenance version uploaded to first post in this thread.
Same version no.:1.9IH.
Fix: forecast nos corrected. (No forecast picture now for stations without Cumulus zambretti forecast)

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:31 pm 
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DaveNZ wrote:
Hmm, according to the wiki: "The number of the current forecast as per strings.ini. If the forecast is not being provided by the station and not being generated by Cumulus a value of 0 (zero) is returned "
My realtime.txt has a value of 24 for this parameter (Precipitation, very unsettled). So not sure why it shows up different on Terry's gadget.

Terry presumably doesn't have 'use Cumulus forecast' set for his Davis station, but you apparently do. That's the only way that a non-zero figure could appear for the forecast.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:07 pm 
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Hmm, according to the wiki: "The number of the current forecast as per strings.ini. If the forecast is not being provided by the station and not being generated by Cumulus a value of 0 (zero) is returned "
My realtime.txt has a value of 24 for this parameter (Precipitation, very unsettled). So not sure why it shows up different on Terry's gadget.

DaveNZ, you both have non-zero forecast figures in your realtime.txt.
In the screenshot below, the forecast no. is the 2nd temperature value.
(Howick to the left, Janter to the right).
Why they differ I don't know. Maybe you have different settings for min/max? or different weather? :)
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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:10 pm 
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Dave is 300 metres down the road.
My station is a fine offset and dave is the davis.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:19 pm 
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Dave is 300 metres down the road.
My station is a fine offset and dave is the davis.

Dave is apparently using Cumulus' forecast and is constantly showing forecast no. 24.
Yours is 2 - until you went offline at 11:00 your time.

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
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Super-T wrote:
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It may be that the formula doesn't work too readily for Auckland as it is very changeable.
... Pressure is set to 971 and 1036 in my case.

Super-T has 'shortened' his weather range (going tropical), thus Highs are not so high, Lows are not so low, and in the middle is more volatile (liable to change).

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 Post subject: Re: Cumulus Realtime Gadget
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:27 am 
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The pressures are set to my all time high and low tracked since July, 2008.
It can go lower but we haven't had a hurricane come this far south for a while in Auckland.

Went offline this morning because the computer that C1 is installed on decided not to be able to open the Cumulus Help file....just sat in the task bar but wouldn't display. Windows problem, not Cumulus :-) Reboot didn't fix it and it won't open from double-clicking the chm file......track that down later.

Forecast is about right at present.....rain expected and dark clouds around but lately these have come to nothing in this vicinity.

Name is Terry. Super-T comes from the old days of being a network supervisor and is my car rego so I stick to it.

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