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Re: Hydreon double tips

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby apenwith » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:18 pm

Hi
As I said - the capacitor is against all reasoning BUT I've had a little rain and had three separate ON/OFF pairs in the debug log.

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby pete_c » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:25 pm

Alan,

I finished my setup in test mode so for now its just a DTR/DSR connection to pins 4 and 6 from COM and NO on the digital rain guage.

The set up is easy to change over to using the capacitor.

We are having a sort of drought so will test this afternoon while watering the outdoor plants.

Its a bit different topology on the connectivity using a Quatech serial to IP server. I am currently utilizing a different Quatech serial IP server for the serial port connection to the Davis Vantage Vue.
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby bruce45 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:25 pm

no sign of rain soon so i cant really test the direct rs232 port unless i pour water onto it i was wanting to try and run it as real condition as possable any one any ideas?

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby duke » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:32 pm

bruce45 wrote:no sign of rain soon so i cant really test the direct rs232 port unless i pour water onto it i was wanting to try and run it as real condition as possable any one any ideas?


Looking at the forecast for Oban it should not be long to wait ;)

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby bruce45 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:50 pm

not sure were you are getting your forcast from but the met office forcasts has been so wrong on tuesday up in the 20's 20 miles up the road down pours. fortwilliam never stopped raining all day.

cumulus forcast is sort of right most of the time but the layout of hills and everything else its more look out the window.

so wait and see would like some proper readings to compair

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby apenwith » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:05 am

Hi
29.0mm Rain recorded (see RESULTS) and debug log shows all 'tips' as pairs no multiples
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby bruce45 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:41 am

no rain over night in oban

the issue of clearing the recorded rain in the today file. as there had been no rain i was able to move the notebook and cables to make it a bit neater as its set up in the bedroom. i cleared the log and started cumulus and both the today and yesturday figures were as expected 0.00 in both. the found i had not connected the rs232 port. so pluged it in and got a reading in the today rate 0.3

shut down cumulus cleared the log and restarted with the cable connected and still got 0.3

so shut down again got meter out to check for a short on the reed nothing. restarted reading of 0.3 again so restarted reading 0.6 tried a few more time each time on restarting the rate increased by 0.3

anyone any ideas as to what could be causing the false readings on start up?

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby laulau » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:57 am

With push button connected instead of RG11, no rain recorded at start-up.
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby steve » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:03 am

bruce45 wrote:anyone any ideas as to what could be causing the false readings on start up?

I suspect that you are getting a 'DSR on' indication at startup for some reason. If you edit cumulus.ini and add 'logging=1' to the [Station] section, it will run on the debug log at startup, and we can see if that's happening.
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby bruce45 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:12 am

Hi Steve
just added the logging=1 and restarted after clearing the today file and the debug log shows that on startup dsr changed from off to on

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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby laulau » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:18 am

I've made some other test with my push button!
Button pressed for 2-3 seconds and then released for 2-3 s and so on.

Debug.log
Cumulus debug log
0311.735 : Creating web graphs
0312.891 : 11:02:02 Copying file: From C:\Cumulus193\web\betel_fr_monthlyrecordT.htmtmp To Z:\www\pages\betel_fr.htm
0313.047 : 11:02:02 Copying file: From D:\Cumulus192\web\betel_fr_monthlyrecordT.htmtmp To D:\Cumulus192\web\monthlyrecord1.htm
0313.110 : 11:02:02 Copying file: From C:\Cumulus193\web\extratags.txttmp To Z:\www\pages\cumulusextrawebtags.php
0313.157 : 11:02:02 Copying file: From C:\Cumulus193\web\cumuluswebtags.txttmp To Z:\www\pages\cumuluswebtags.php
0313.172 : 11:02:02 FFFF0E020E
0313.219 : 11:02:02 Logging in to 192.168.1.177
0317.797 : 11:02:07 FFFF00009941031200200D
0322.922 : 11:02:12 FFFF064098016012883100270635
0328.422 : 11:02:17 FFFF02016301981613
0331.000 : 11:02:20 FFFF020492015710FE
0331.797 : 11:02:21 FFFF000000420326002089
0344.219 : 11:02:33 FFFF03012302350662
0345.829 : 11:02:35 FFFF0000634102260021EB
0346.829 : 11:02:36 FFFF0202280259159A
0349.235 : 11:02:38 Exit ftpthreadexecute
0349.235 : 11:02:38 Logging out
0349.235 : 11:02:38 FTP Session Closed
0349.235 : 11:02:38 FTP quit done
0349.235 : 11:02:38 Enabling web update
0349.235 : 11:02:38 Exit ftpthreadfinish
0355.860 : 11:02:45 FFFF010000105514000059122808091C
0359.797 : 11:02:49 FFFF00008641032600200E
0360.938 : 11:02:50 FFFF064098016012883100270635
0367.422 : 11:02:56 FFFF02016301981613
0371.188 : 24/06/2012 11:03:00 Minute timer 3
0371.188 : Adding LH entry, ts = 11:03:00 raintot = 1455
0371.188 : 11:03:00 Creating WXNow File
0371.547 : 11:03:00 FFFF0E030F
0373.797 : 11:03:03 FFFF0000018202260021CA
0374.204 : 11:03:03 FFFF020492015710FE
0379.735 : 11:03:09 RG11 port DSR change: On
0379.735 : 11:03:09 RG11 port DSR change: On
0381.219 : 11:03:10 FFFF03012302350662
0381.657 : 11:03:10 RG11 port DSR change: On
0381.657 : 11:03:10 RG11 port DSR change: On
0381.657 : 11:03:10 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0381.657 : 11:03:10 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0381.657 : 11:03:10 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0383.860 : 11:03:13 RG11 port DSR change: On
0383.860 : 11:03:13 RG11 port DSR change: On
0386.391 : 11:03:15 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0387.797 : 11:03:17 FFFF0000059203260020DE
0388.219 : 11:03:17 RG11 port DSR change: On
0388.219 : 11:03:17 RG11 port DSR change: On
0390.266 : 11:03:19 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0390.266 : 11:03:19 RG11 port DSR change: On
0390.266 : 11:03:19 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0392.110 : 11:03:21 RG11 port DSR change: On
0392.110 : 11:03:21 RG11 port DSR change: On
0394.750 : 11:03:24 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0398.938 : 11:03:28 FFFF064098016012883100270635
0399.204 : 11:03:28 RG11 port DSR change: On
0399.204 : 11:03:28 RG11 port DSR change: On
0401.797 : 11:03:31 FFFF0000068202280021D1
0402.235 : 11:03:31 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0402.235 : 11:03:31 RG11 port DSR change: On
0402.235 : 11:03:31 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0402.860 : 11:03:32 FFFF010000105514000059122808091C
0405.516 : 11:03:34 RG11 port DSR change: On
0405.532 : 11:03:34 RG11 port DSR change: On
0406.422 : 11:03:35 FFFF02016301981613
0408.500 : 11:03:37 RG11 port DSR change: On
0408.500 : 11:03:37 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0415.829 : 11:03:45 FFFF0000108201280022DB
0417.000 : 11:03:46 FFFF020492015710FE
0418.219 : 11:03:47 FFFF03012302350662
0428.829 : 11:03:58 FFFF0202280259159A
0429.797 : 11:03:59 FFFF000045820128002210
0431.188 : 24/06/2012 11:04:00 Minute timer 4
0431.188 : Adding LH entry, ts = 11:04:00 raintot = 1455
0431.188 : 11:04:00 Creating WXNow File
0431.407 : Creating web graphs
0432.563 : 11:04:01 Copying file: From C:\Cumulus193\web\betel_fr_monthlyrecordT.htmtmp To Z:\www\pages\betel_fr.htm
0432.688 : 11:04:01 Copying file: From D:\Cumulus192\web\betel_fr_monthlyrecordT.htmtmp To D:\Cumulus192\web\monthlyrecord1.htm
0432.750 : 11:04:02 Copying file: From C:\Cumulus193\web\extratags.txttmp To Z:\www\pages\cumulusextrawebtags.php
0432.797 : 11:04:02 Copying file: From C:\Cumulus193\web\cumuluswebtags.txttmp To Z:\www\pages\cumuluswebtags.php
0432.813 : 11:04:02 FFFF0E0410
0432.860 : 11:04:02 Logging in to 192.168.1.177
0436.938 : 11:04:06 FFFF064098016012883100270635
0443.797 : 11:04:13 FFFF0000522102280022BD
0445.422 : 11:04:14 FFFF02016301981613
0449.860 : 11:04:19 FFFF010000105514000059122808091C
0455.219 : 11:04:24 FFFF03012302350662
0457.797 : 11:04:27 FFFF0000784102220021FC
0460.000 : 11:04:29 FFFF020492015710FE
0468.860 : 11:04:38 Exit ftpthreadexecute
0468.860 : 11:04:38 Logging out
0468.860 : 11:04:38 FTP Session Closed
0468.860 : 11:04:38 FTP quit done
0468.860 : 11:04:38 Enabling web update
0468.860 : 11:04:38 Exit ftpthreadfinish
0469.829 : 11:04:39 FFFF0202290259159B
0471.797 : 11:04:41 FFFF00009861032200203C
0473.157 : 11:04:42 RG11 port DSR change: On
0473.157 : 11:04:42 RG11 port DSR change: On
0474.954 : 11:04:44 FFFF064098016012883100270635
0476.110 : 11:04:45 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0476.110 : 11:04:45 RG11 port DSR change: On
0476.110 : 11:04:45 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0479.250 : 11:04:48 RG11 port DSR change: On
0479.250 : 11:04:48 RG11 port DSR change: On
0482.016 : 11:04:51 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0482.016 : 11:04:51 RG11 port DSR change: On
0482.016 : 11:04:51 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0484.422 : 11:04:53 FFFF02016301981613
0484.954 : 11:04:54 RG11 port DSR change: On
0484.954 : 11:04:54 RG11 port DSR change: On
0485.829 : 11:04:55 FFFF00006662012200220B
0487.563 : 11:04:56 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0487.563 : 11:04:56 RG11 port DSR change: Off
0490.282 : 11:04:59 RG11 port DSR change: On
0490.282 : 11:04:59 RG11 port DSR change: On
0490.844 : 24/06/2012 11:05:00 Minute timer 5
0490.844 : Adding LH entry, ts = 11:05:00 raintot = 1455
0490.844 : 11:05:00 Creating WXNow File


The DSR change isn't very constant!
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby steve » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:22 am

bruce45 wrote:just added the logging=1 and restarted after clearing the today file and the debug log shows that on startup dsr changed from off to on
Yes, I thought that must be the explanation.
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby steve » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:23 am

laulau wrote:The DSR change isn't very constant!

Yes - and it's odd how there can be two or more 'on's without an 'off', and vice versa. It's just as well that real sensors seem to work better than this test!
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby apenwith » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:28 am

Hi
I found that the length of the switch closure caused multiple ON/OFF's and it is difficult to time the switch so I would expect that sort of result.
There is a thread somewhere about USB/Serial adapters - one version of the firmware seems more reliable than the other.
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Re: Hydreon double tips

Postby mcrossley » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:35 am

Oh for a good old fashioned physical serial port (or even a parallel port!) eh?


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