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Rain is totally wrong

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Rain is totally wrong

Postby mproper23 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:49 am

Hi,

I'm using a WH1080. Since this morning the Rainmeter is totally through the roof. It shoows 10925mm.
I checked the sensor outside all finde.
If I start old Cumulus all is fine. I don't get the problem.
Has anybody elso had this problem and if yes how did you solve this problem?

greetings andy

Edit:

I managed to correct the value via raintodayeditor but In records it still shows the wrong value. If I close and edit the files manually and then restart CumulusMX the old value appears again. Am I doing it wrong?

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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby steve » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:32 am

If you zip up the mxdiags folder and attach it, I'll see if I can work out what's going on.
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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby mproper23 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:16 am

Thx Steve
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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby steve » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:33 am

It appears that the rain counter got reset for some reason. You corrected it here:

2017-04-05 11:29:14.527 Before rain today edit, raintoday=10925,0 Raindaystart=34,0
2017-04-05 11:29:14.527 After rain today edit, raintoday=0,0 Raindaystart=10959,0

You then started doing incorrect changes to the rain today figure, which caused a number of records to be set:

2017-04-05 11:41:14.903 Before rain today edit, raintoday=10925,6 Raindaystart=34,0
2017-04-05 11:41:14.903 After rain today edit, raintoday=-10925,6 Raindaystart=21885,2
2017-04-05 11:41:15.612 ****Rain reset? First chance: raindaystart = 21885,2, Raincounter = 10959,6
2017-04-05 11:41:15.612 Leaving counter at 10959,6
2017-04-05 11:41:21.942 Before rain today edit, raintoday=-10925,6 Raindaystart=21885,2
2017-04-05 11:41:21.942 After rain today edit, raintoday=10925,6 Raindaystart=34,0
2017-04-05 11:41:30.840 Before rain today edit, raintoday=10925,6 Raindaystart=34,0
2017-04-05 11:41:30.840 After rain today edit, raintoday=925,6 Raindaystart=10034,0
2017-04-05 11:41:47.368 Before rain today edit, raintoday=925,6 Raindaystart=10034,0
2017-04-05 11:41:47.368 After rain today edit, raintoday=10925,6 Raindaystart=34,0
2017-04-05 11:42:00.480 Writing log entry for 05.04.2017 11:42:00
2017-04-05 11:42:00.484 Written log entry for 05.04.2017 11:42:00
2017-04-05 11:42:00.485 Writing today.ini, LastUpdateTime = 05.04.2017 11:42:00 raindaystart = 34 rain counter = 10959,6
2017-04-05 11:42:00.485 Latest reading: 05F0: 00 26 E8 00 2C AF 00 4B 26 0E 14 00 04 B4 8E 00
2017-04-05 11:42:15.823 Before rain today edit, raintoday=10925,6 Raindaystart=34,0
2017-04-05 11:42:15.823 After rain today edit, raintoday=10959,6 Raindaystart=0,0
2017-04-05 11:42:25.653 New monthly record, month = 4: 2017-04-05 11:42 10959,600 "High daily rain" 2017-04-05 00:00 10925,600
2017-04-05 11:42:25.678 New monthly record, month = 4: 2017-04-05 11:42 10959,600 "Highest monthly rainfall" 2017-04-05 00:00 10925,600
2017-04-05 11:42:38.984 Before rain today edit, raintoday=10959,6 Raindaystart=0,0
2017-04-05 11:42:38.984 After rain today edit, raintoday=0,0 Raindaystart=10959,6
2017-04-05 11:42:41.061 Before rain today edit, raintoday=0,0 Raindaystart=10959,6
2017-04-05 11:42:41.061 After rain today edit, raintoday=0,0 Raindaystart=10959,6

At this point, you stopped Cumulus, with the correct figures applied:

2017-04-05 11:44:00.862 Writing today.ini, LastUpdateTime = 05.04.2017 11:44:00 raindaystart = 10959,6 rain counter = 10959,6

When it started again, you had apparently manually edited the rain counter so that it was wrong again, because when you started Cumulus again it had to recalculate the rain counter, so it was effectively reset. I'm not sure why you apparently edited the today,ini file, but did you use 'full stops' for decimals?

You then corrected the counter again, but your station has now stopped responding:

2017-04-05 15:40:00.602 *** Data input appears to have stopped

It was still not responding when you closed Cumulus at 0714 this morning, so any rain totals are inevitably going to be wrong currently, until you get your station working again.
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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby mproper23 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:59 am

Hi steve,
i used normal "Points" as decimals.

This night it was the same strange thing again. at ca 20:30 the rain measurement goes nuts. What could be the Problem?
I attachted the actual logfile.
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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby steve » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:58 pm

Your station was sending large increases in the rain counter. Cumulus tries to cope, but it's not possible to do anything sensible.

2017-04-06 21:23:33.422 Warning: large difference in rain gauge tip count: 71
2017-04-06 21:23:33.422 Ignoring reading 1
2017-04-06 21:23:43.438 Warning: large difference in rain gauge tip count: 71
2017-04-06 21:23:43.438 Ignoring reading 2
2017-04-06 21:23:53.451 Warning: large difference in rain gauge tip count: 71
2017-04-06 21:23:53.451 Ignoring reading 3
2017-04-06 21:24:00.084 Writing log entry for 06.04.2017 21:24:00
2017-04-06 21:24:00.091 Written log entry for 06.04.2017 21:24:00
2017-04-06 21:24:00.091 Writing today.ini, LastUpdateTime = 06.04.2017 21:24:00 raindaystart = 11264,7 rain counter = 11281,5
2017-04-06 21:24:00.091 Latest reading: 8430: 00 1F DB 00 45 29 00 61 26 07 0A 00 0A 2C 93 00
2017-04-06 21:24:13.452 Warning: large difference in rain gauge tip count: 71
2017-04-06 21:24:13.452 Ignoring reading 4
2017-04-06 21:24:23.466 Warning: large difference in rain gauge tip count: 177
2017-04-06 21:24:23.466 Ignoring reading 5
2017-04-06 21:24:33.468 Warning: large difference in rain gauge tip count: 177
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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby mproper23 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:17 am

Sorry for bothering you,

do I get you right that the problem comes from the station or the sensor?
Actual we have a a roadworks at our location, could it be possible that something is radio in the frequency? like traffic light or something?
Is there a way to ignore such large discrepancy?

Thank you very much for your time.

Greetings Andy

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Re: Rain is totally wrong

Postby steve » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:48 am

Could well be radio interference. Cumulus already ignores large increases, there are limits to what it can do when the supplied data is so bad.
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