Sandaysoft

[quote="gemini06720] I do not recommend the IP adaptor as it does not offer any flexibility - the IP adaptor has been designed to send the data from a weather station to the Davis weather website![/quote]

May I just clarify this latter comment because it isn't strictly true. The IP logger is perfectly capable of passing data across a LAN to a compatible program on a local PC (and at the (pseudo) same time that it uploads to weatherlink.com).

There are certainly pros and cons to choosing the IP logger, not least its extra cost, but there is no problem about using it in conjunction with a local PC, providing a program is in use that it fully compatible with the IP data stream.

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John Dann
Prodata Weather Systems
www.weatherstations.co.uk

Obviously, you have not tried to get data out of the darn thing...

The IP logger is so dedicated in sending its data to the Davis weather pages that it is next to impossible to get the data out of it - one must first create loops to determine when the IP logger is not uploading to the Davis pages and then, during one of those intervals, download the data - there is no way to stop or modify the programmed upload.

Indeed, not only is the IP logger an overpriced piece of electronics but it offers no flexibility whatsoever - it is unfortunate that the engineers at Davis could not think 'out-of-the-box' and create an Internet logger that could have been controlled by its buyer!

I will continue to strongly to discourage the purchase of the IP logger - it is not worth what it is selling for ... and the WeatherLink software that come with any of the logger is by itself another piece of garbage...

Oh, by the way, I have three WeatherLink adaptors (data logger), one serial, one USB and one IP - it is my third IP logger ... the two first ones just died a few weeks before the end of their warranties! I guess I forgot to mention something about the IP logger reliability...

I suspect context is quite important here. I realise and respect that this is a Cumulus forum, but anyone using the WL program for example should not have any problem at all running the WLIP in both local and wl.com upload modes simultaneously. So I know for sure that it's possible in principle. The trick is to request no more than a small number of LOOPs and then effectively release the logger to perform its wl.com upload. Whether Cumulus does this or not I don't know I'm afraid. (And of course you can always turn off the wl.com uploads if you wish and just use the Ethernet interface, but it's probably more cost-effective to use a 6510SER and a device server.)

And as to general logger reliability, well, I'd have to say that you have been extraordinarily unlucky. Speaking as someone who supports maybe around 1500+ Vantage (VP1+VP2+Vue) systems, I'd have to say that it's extremely rare for the logger ever to give any (hardware) problems. On original VP2 systems we could talk about supercaps, the first .166 T/H sensors and - after a few years - anemometer speed switches as of more questionable reliability but dubious logger reliability...not in my experience.

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John Dann
Prodata Weather Systems
www.weatherstations.co.uk

1). Yes, love it.
2). Brilliantly!
3) As previously advised you have to buy the data logger + WeatherLink software for it to be able to link to Cumulus or any other weather software.

I bought the USB version and it is permanently connected to a Samsung NC10 netbook which uploads data to my website. I know others recommend the serial connection but what modern PC includes a serial port? There may have been early problems with USB but for this user it's never been a problem.

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Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

Hi guys, Thanks for all your replys... some of it just went straight over my head.. So I'm super interested in one now but ive hit another brick wall

They come in three versions UK US and EURO.... for the Price I want to pay I can only find US version... and no one can answer if the US version has the metric adapter for the rain gauge cos I want to use it on the metric system..

anyone own the US version?

UK and EURO seem the same....

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Your AC power adapter will probably not fit an Australian wall socket . Easily overcome with a universal power adapter (or batteries) though.

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Dan

http://www.brisbaneliveweather.com



A man with a thermometer always knows the temperature. A man with two thermometers, not so sure.

cheers, that I can diffidently overcome.. its more the metric system that I'm wanting.. eg Km/h and mm for rain

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Yes, why?

The Davis Vantage Pro2 has basically two versions of the weather station, one for the USA and one for the rest of the world - one of the major difference between the units is the transmitting frequency.

As for using the rain gauge - the USA version of the station comes with an adaptor that allows an easy change over to metric - my station is all in metric, living in Canada...

IIRC Australia is a special case if you want to be legal - I've got some recollection that the units have to be restricted to a subset of standard frequencies if they are to comply with the local mobile phone regulations (which operate on an adjacent wireless band). You might want to check this with a local dealer.

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John Dann
Prodata Weather Systems
www.weatherstations.co.uk

Lyle, just to clear up things, as stated on the Davis Instruments Wireless Vantage Pro2 web page, there are three (3) version of the Vantage Pro2 weather station, one for the United States (with radio frequency from 902 to 928 MHz and a 0.01" rain collector), one for the United Kingdom (radio frequency of 868 MHz and a 0.2mm rain collector) and one for Europe (radio frequency of 868 MHz and a 0.2mm rain collector) - there is nothing on the Davis web pages that indicates Australia has/needs its own type of Vantage Pro2 weather station (and radio frequency).

As stated in a previous message, a rain collector conversion adaptor (to convert from 0.01" to 0.2mm) is included in all Vantage Pro2 weather stations sold in North America - I bought my station in the USA and a friend of mine bought his station in Canada and we are both processing and displaying our weather data in metric measurements.

Before you make the purchase of a Vantage Pro2 may I suggest that you contact both Davis Instruments (in California, USA) and some local (in Australia) retailer to find out which type of Vantage Pro2 weather station you would need to purchase...

Bought an Australian model VP2 a week ago. Says it transmits on 915-928 MHz

Hey, cheers, where did you get yours from? Cost?

I've looked around and sent a few emails, If i were to get it over seas any of the versions are a go.. because the us one comes with the metric adapter for the rain gauge. Doesn't look like there are any freq restrictions as I few other brands are sold here that are in the 900mhz band.

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Thanks for the confirmation. It does indeed look like the 902-915MHz part of the wider 902-928MHz frequency band of the US spec models is not permitted for use in Australia.

I suspect that the reason that this limitation is not spelled out in the Davis catalogue is that it applies only to stations sold for Australia and is therefore unique to this territory. And AIUI the necessary modification is made by the official Australian distributor. Each of the other three main station types (ie US/EU/UK) are distinct production types (although EU and UK are identical for wireless frequency, differing only in mains adapter and documentation language) - and even the UK version is actually sold in multiple territories, where the UK style mains adapter has been used historically.

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John Dann
Prodata Weather Systems
www.weatherstations.co.uk

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1373028

So US Version is out of the question..

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By my post? Sorry! This was just a follow-up to an earlier post in this thread speculating about whether Australia allows use of the full US spec 900MHz band for Vantage stations or legally permits only part of that band. The info that nugget posted seems to confirm that the second of these two options is the case. So:

In countries following the US spec to the letter, the VP2 stations can hop right around the band 902-928MHz, ie a band 26MHz wide.

But in Australia only 915-928MHz (ie 13MHz wide) seems to be legally allowed and so I'm surmising that only Davis station sourced fom the official Australian distributor (or suitably converted by them, which is a service that I think they offer - though presumably at a price) can legally be used there.

(NB I'm guessing that this limitation is because Australia uses GSM-900 as one of its cellphone protocols, which uses the 890-915MHz band for its uplink and so the 902-915MHz part of the US VP2 spectrum would overlap into this cellphone band and cause interference.)

Edit: I see that Darknstormy has edited his initial response in the preceding post and so the original quote has disappeared and been replaced by a link to a similar discussion that covers the same ground as I was speculating about here.

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John Dann
Prodata Weather Systems
www.weatherstations.co.uk