C2 Will Not Install

akasonny · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:04 pm

As you requested in your Readme file:

I'm unable to get C2 to install. Have no prior C2 installed but DO HAVE C1 installed and working fine. Running Windows XPSP3 with .NET framework 3.5 SP1.

When notified there is no database and do I want to import: When I check NO the program crashes. When I check YES and point C2 to the C1 cumulus.ini, it imports to about 85% and crashes (send you the bugfile report and it was your assumption the installer had created a problem. I don't think thats whats happening here) The s3db file is in the path but I'm not exactly sure what to do with that. Is that supposed to somehow replace cumulus.ini if there isn't one? Either way, that doesn't seem to do the job.

Tried to uininstall/reinstall a dozen times with the same results. When I tried to install to 2 Windows Vista machines, it installed okay on one but gave me the same problems on the other.

Ideas?

steve · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:53 pm

Just to be clear - it sounds as though it is actually installing (i.e. the installer runs and completes), it's just the first time you attempt to run it, it crashes?

Is the last entry in the bug report file showing the same error as before: "SQLite error no such table: StandardData"?

Are you getting a trace.txt and an importlog.txt file on your desktop? Can you attach them, please, if so?

The cumulus.s3db file is just an empty database, and is used whether or not you are importing. The fact that it crashes when you don't opt to do an import suggests to me that the problem is that it can't write to the database, possibly because it's not there (in which case a file gets created automatically, but this does not contain the correct structure) - this is why I suspect an installer problem. The installer should put it in the correct place for Cumulus to be able to access when it runs, which on XP I think is in your documents folder in Local Settings\Application Data\Cumulus\. The cumulus.s3db in the zip is another copy of this so you can overwrite the installed file at any time to start again from scratch.

akasonny · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:19 pm

Attached errors.zip containing the log files.

Yes, it installs to the point of import and crashes.

steve · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:54 pm

It is indeed crashing in the same way, it can't find the table in the database. Could you do the following, please:

1. Send me the file C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Local Settings\Application Data\Cumulus\cumulus.s3db
2. Uninstall Cumulus 2
3. Delete file C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Local Settings\Application Data\Cumulus\cumulus.s3db
4. Open a command prompt, change to the folder where you unzipped the Cumulus 2 installation files, and execute:

Code:

msiexec /i CumulusSetup.msi /l*v .\install.log

5. After Cumulus has installed, don't run it, but send me the install.log file which should have been created.
6. Check to see if file C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Local Settings\Application Data\Cumulus\cumulus.s3db exists, if so, please send me that too.

Sorry about this.

akasonny · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:21 pm

Logs as requested.

No subdirectory was created as C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Application Data\Cumulus and so the only .s3db file was contained in the setup folder.

steve · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:48 pm

akasonny wrote:

No subdirectory was created as C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Application Data\Cumulus and so the only .s3db file was contained in the setup folder.

There should be a 'Local Settings' in the middle of that. The installer thinks it does exist - the folder probably has the 'hidden' attribute.

Quote:

File: C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Local Settings\Application Data\Cumulus\cumulus.s3db; Won't Overwrite; Won't patch; Existing file is unversioned but modified

akasonny · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:52 pm

Woops...yes found it....here's the s3db in that folder:

akasonny · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:56 pm

whoa...it didn't attach...trying again

steve · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:11 pm

It's all a bit odd. That database does indeed have no tables, so that's why Cumulus crashes. I don't understand how it got there, though; it's the sort of thing that gets created automatically if you run Cumulus 2 with no existing database. And it's dated 29th September - the one that the setup installs is dated 14th September.

If you delete that file and install Cumulus 2, it may well work.

akasonny · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:27 pm

Before your last reply, I did the following:

Deleted the cumulus.s3db file from local settings\application data\cumulus and replaced it with the s3db file from the setup folder you provided. Viola! You probably instructed us to do that in the readme file but, for some reason, I just didn't understand that.

Its working now....the rain data is all wrong for the month, year showing minus figures and its showing a rate of -108.85 inches for some reason which I presume is a glitch somewhere in the 4000+ data sets. All of the annual temp and rainfall data is way out of the range of possibility but it seems fine otherwise.

Guess I'll have to search the forum for the easiest way to negate the C2 data and begin collecting for that again.

Thanks for the hand-holding here...despite the glaring errors in the data, I'm quite happy I was able to get C2 running.

steve · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:39 pm

Yes, there are lots of ways the rain data can be weird, mainly due to problems in the C1 data, where C1 doesn't really mind, but C2 gets into a bit of a mess when it tries to make sense of it all. C2 stores the rain data in a completely different way to C1, and the import process can go badly wrong during the conversion.

Any of the highs and lows showing weird values are again down to bad values in the C1 data. They're fairly easy to remove using the database editor - providing you don't have too many, and you bear in mind that the timestamps in there are in UTC and the other data is not necessarily in the units you've chosen for display. Eventually the editor will translate the values.

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