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2nd Anemometer Failing

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RayProudfoot
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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Give ProData a call. No point me watching any longer. I’ve seen the issue once in 60+ updates.
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Ray, Cheshire.

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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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Showing 360° more often today
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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Mapantz wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 10:34 am Showing 360° more often today
yes just looked at your gauges, seem like more 360 than anything else in the last 5 minutes.
Regards Simon

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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

Post by freddie »

I experience this too. I have the same set-up with a separate transmitter for wind. It is my experience that there may be some water ingress in to the transmitter unit where the anemo wire enters. Mine happens when there has been wind-driven precipitation. I fix it by cleaning the rj11 plug and socket and attempting to waterproof it.

Not saying that yours has the same cause - just offering my experience for consideration.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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It's difficult for me to check the transmitter and plug, as it's 10m up on a chimney. I have to borrow a friends double ladder and also hire a roof ladder as the pitch of the roof is too steep to walk up.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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Mapantz wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:19 pm It's difficult for me to check the transmitter and plug, as it's 10m up on a chimney. I have to borrow a friends double ladder and also hire a roof ladder as the pitch of the roof is too steep to walk up.
My anemometer is attached to a pole on the chimney breast but the transmitter is much lower. Below the bathroom window above a flat porch roof. Easy access with a short stepladder.

Why not use the full length of the cable to place the transmitter at a more convenient location?
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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RayProudfoot wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:33 pm My anemometer is attached to a pole on the chimney breast but the transmitter is much lower. Below the bathroom window above a flat porch roof. Easy access with a short stepladder.

Why not use the full length of the cable to place the transmitter at a more convenient location?
I've got no place it'll reach to be to get any sunshine. I also don't like cables running down the roof as they're prone to getting damaged by rubbing on the tiles.
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Mapantz wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 1:16 pm
I've got no place it'll reach to be to get any sunshine. I also don't like cables running down the roof as they're prone to getting damaged by rubbing on the tiles.
Understood on your first point. My cable has been laid across my roof for years. It’s static. No rubbing.

What style of house? Unusual you haven’t a E, SE, S, SW or W facing wall.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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RayProudfoot wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 1:23 pm
Mapantz wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 1:16 pm
I've got no place it'll reach to be to get any sunshine. I also don't like cables running down the roof as they're prone to getting damaged by rubbing on the tiles.
Understood on your first point. My cable has been laid across my roof for years. It’s static. No rubbing.

What style of house? Unusual you haven’t a E, SE, S, SW or W facing wall.
Not allowed to put anything on the wall on the public side.

The cable rubbing is an issue for me. My sky dish is on the backside of the house, and the point of entry is on the opposite side, so the cable had to be run over the roof. It has broken about 6 times in the last 10 years due to rubbing on the rough tiles.

http://my.meteonetwork.it/asset/photo/X ... 9.0587.jpg

The photo is deceiving; that roof is extremely steep, and very high.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's the potentiometer that is failing, that's what I was told with the last anemometer when I sent it back.

I emailed John yesterday, but haven't had a response back. I also emailed Davis, but getting a reply back from them is as difficult as trying to pin diarrhoea to a wall.

There's no way I am going to fork out for a new anemometer again, so if I cannot find a solution, I may retire the weather station. It has cost me in excess of £2000 since I bought it in 2016.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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That gable end above the bedroom windows looks a suitable place for the anemometer. You’d need a longer pole to clear the roofline by 3ft or so. Not the perfect solution but a decent compromise and importantly, accessible.

I’m guess by the satellite dish I’m looking at the east face of the house. Is that the public side?
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Anemometer will stay on the chimney. It's the only place that clears obstructions from surrounding buildings and trees.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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Mapantz wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 1:35 pm There's no way I am going to fork out for a new anemometer again, so if I cannot find a solution, I may retire the weather station. It has cost me in excess of £2000 since I bought it in 2016.
I’m struggling to understand how you’ve spent nearly £2000 in just 7 years.

The new anemometer uses a Hall-Effect sensor compared to a reed switch on the older one. No moving parts other than the cups. These instruments work continuously and are the most likely to fail. But once you have the new anemometer it’s much more reliable.

Are you near the coast? Salt air doesn’t help.
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Ray, Cheshire.

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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

Post by mcrossley »

The Hall effect sensor use only for wind speed, it still uses a potentiometer for the direction - which is subject to track wear. You could try spraying it with contact cleaner and spinning it around. It may revive it for a while.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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RayProudfoot wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 6:35 pm I’m struggling to understand how you’ve spent nearly £2000 in just 7 years.
Initial outlay of the Pro2 system. £600
Bought the anemometer transmitter. £200
Bought a solar sensor. £180
Bought a 30m extension cable for solar sensor. £50
Anemometer failed, bought a new one. £170
Solar sensor failed, bought a new one. £180
Rain gauge failed, bought a new tipper £50
Temperature/humidity sensor failed. Upgraded to a newer model. £60
Daytime FARS upgrade: £180
Bought AirLink: £180
Bought WeatherLink Live: £200
Bought Leaf/Soil/Temp transmitter. £300
Bought two stainless steel temp probes. £120
Bought a leaf wetness sensor: £150
Got a deal on a soil moisture sensor for £25

£2645

One stainless steel temp probe has already gone bad.
Third anemometer going bad.
RayProudfoot wrote: Thu 23 Mar 2023 6:35 pm But once you have the new anemometer it’s much more reliable.
This anemometer and the last one were both the newer models.
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Re: 2nd Anemometer Failing

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Having invested so much I’d be reluctant to shut down operations.
Cheers,
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