Cumulus 2 interface - please read

steve · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:59 pm

sjukmidlands wrote:

I hope it retains some of the design style of the current Cumulus 2 when completed which is very very smart, but however it turns out it will be worth waiting for, good luck!

I'm just splitting the code in two (or three, actually), so the front end will look pretty much like the current alpha.

Greg · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:05 am

Steve, my advice is to just do what makes you happy, and excited to program it.

You're doing this for fun, not for a living. Don't let it become a chore, trying to meet the requirements and preferences of others. Just do whatever you want to do.

Cheers, and all the best for the new year.

steve · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:50 pm

Greg wrote:

Steve, my advice is to just do what makes you happy, and excited to program it.

You're doing this for fun, not for a living. Don't let it become a chore, trying to meet the requirements and preferences of others. Just do whatever you want to do.

At the moment, a chore is exactly what it feels like. I'm a sensitive type

, and when I get all of the criticism that I've been getting recently about how Cumulus should work and how crap the documentation is, and I just don't have time to sort everything out, I really feel like packing it all in and doing something sensible with my life.

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Cheers, and all the best for the new year.

And the same to you!

lordgoata · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:06 pm

steve wrote:

At the moment, a chore is exactly what it feels like. I'm a sensitive type

, and when I get all of the criticism that I've been getting recently about how Cumulus should work and how crap the documentation is, and I just don't have time to sort everything out, I really feel like packing it all in and doing something sensible with my life.

Steve, if people think the documentation is crap then let them write or improve it. Whatever the state of the documentation (not sure I have even looked at it personally!), the forum is a HUGE source of information, and includes other people that can help which takes the burden from you. Trust me, no matter how much work or how good the documentation is, you will still get complaints (and I have written a hugely detailed manual in the past, so talk from experience!).

Regarding how Cumulus should work - everyone is a critic, and everyone always knows better. As the guy above said, do what you want, if others find it beneficial then great, if not, then they can do their own software :ugeek:

6719jason · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:24 pm

steve wrote:

At the moment, a chore is exactly what it feels like. I'm a sensitive type

, and when I get all of the criticism that I've been getting recently about how Cumulus should work and how crap the documentation is, and I just don't have time to sort everything out, I really feel like packing it all in and doing something sensible with my life.

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Cheers, and all the best for the new year.

And the same to you!

Steve, if people think the documentation is crap then let them write or improve it. Whatever the state of the documentation (not sure I have even looked at it personally!), the forum is a HUGE source of information, and includes other people that can help which takes the burden from you. Trust me, no matter how much work or how good the documentation is, you will still get complaints (and I have written a hugely detailed manual in the past, so talk from experience!).

Regarding how Cumulus should work - everyone is a critic, and everyone always knows better. As the guy above said, do what you want, if others find it beneficial then great, if not, then they can do their own software :ugeek:

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I couldnt agree more. I have never had any trouble understanding the Documentation provided (Which is very indepth and is written in CLEAR, UNDERSTANDABLE ENGLISH) and I feel you have Developed two great pieces of Software which I use with Pride.

I hope none of my little requests for Cumulus have caused any undue stress or pressure on you. If it has, I am sorry.

A donation will be winding its way to you in 2010

If there is anything I or any one else on here can do to help, we'll all be more than happy to do so

Have a great new year Steve

gemini06720 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:11 am

Steve...

steve wrote:

...and when I get all of the criticism that I've been getting recently about how Cumulus should work and how crap the documentation is, and I just don't have time to sort everything out, I really feel like packing it all in and doing something sensible with my life

I have read the documentation, in both english and french languages ... not that I could not understand what I had read in english but more to compare the two documents...

Well, the (english) documentation you have written for Cumulus is one of the best document I have read in a long time ... and that is a great compliment as I usually read all/every documentation before using a software or a new device. 8-)

The people complaining are most likely the same people who are expecting that everything be done for them - the 'silver spoon into their mouth' type of people. :roll:

As I expressed before, with the European and north american releases of those low-priced low-quality low-reliability (made in China) weather stations, every person can now become an instant weather station operator and and an instant knowledgeable weather forecaster - is there not an 'instant knowledge' pill supplied with those stations! :evil:

Steve, I ask you, no, I beg you, to ignore those complainers - if they are not happy with Cumulus, (the software, the documentation, the USB connection, etc.) then they can look/search somewhere else to find such a 'so well' supported software... :twisted:

These forums are not for a CumulusNanny type of software...

Might be time to start a new 'by invitation only private membership' parallel Cumulus forum where only people with some intermediate computer knowledge (more than just switching a computer on/off), some basic programming knowledge (with a very basic knowledge of HTML), some basic server knowledge (with a basic understanding of FTP upload), and some basic weather station operating knowledge (with basic station knowledge after reading the documentation) would be accepted as members and where full Cumulus support would be provided by all members to all members... :mrgreen:

Steve, as mentioned previously, just ignore those ungrateful (selfish) people! Design Cumulus2 the way YOU would like it to be, the way YOU would like it to display ... and for YOUR own Vantage Pro2 weather station... :twisted:

Then it would be to those people to design an interface for their own weather station software... :evil:

wellsy6 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:11 pm

Hi Steve
I really like C1 and am very interested in what you have done so far in C2 "beta" (I think some forget it is still being designed). Ignore the detractors, maybe take a break from Cumulus 2 to give yourself some time to refresh things and then look at how you want it to be. Cumulus 1 is more than adequate in the meantime and still way better than anything else out there. Once you have C2 the way you want it people can then choose whether they like the way C1 or C2 works and use the one they like better.

Cheers Tony

gabrielle · **Joined:** Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:31 pm **Posts:** 5

As I peruse the internet as I do A LOT. And if you go to any weather site you will almost always get a reference to one of the best personal weather station softwear on the net, CUMULUS. These references are from all over the world. And until this particular thread I have not read a negative post about this software. I beleive this program started when? 2004? Quite a track record. BTW I love the look of Cumulus 2 I cant wait till the final version!

ga6742 · **Posted:** Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:28 pm

Steve...I like Cumulus 1. I think it appeals to the majority of users. Maybe just making the appearance more programmable is all you need. You basically have 10 boxes of information defined including the gauges. How about letting user choose which information is displayed at the box level plus let user move them around. Each box could also have programmable text and background colors. If you have a "My Yahoo" page you will know what I mean.

I have had my station for 7 years and I dealt with some glitchy software and unappealing interfaces. I was starting to lose interest as a weather enthusiast until Cumulus came along. You have already done a great job and it's hard to improve on great.....George

sjukmidlands · **Posted:** Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:03 pm

I actually like Cumulus 2 a lot, granted its still in development thus has limited features yet, but the interface is very smart and modern, and potentially very useful with tabs to various gauges/screens. I hope it is still going to be developed for release whenever Steve has time to work on it!

Steve J

silverbull · **Posted:** Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:04 am

Thank you for the software,C1 & C2,all these people who complain about it are ignorant,about its true value,& how the GUI is superior compared to my EasyWeather stuff,your site,software & membership motivated me to buy a WS from Maplin,at a great price,Thank You,once again,Regards,Ray

stevew · **Posted:** Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:04 pm

just wanted to comment on the 'documentation is crap' and similar works of fantasy I see referenced.

This is a hobby project for Steve, thank God he has shared his fantastic work with all of us, the vast majority of whom are eternally grateful, more so if we have had the misfortune to use other 'commercial' weather station software.

Cumulus is a great bit of software, it works, works well and works reliably. I have *cough* years of professional experience with commercial systems from £500 to £5M and cant as easily say the same of them!

Documentation is never complete, when a project stops changing usually the documentation stops getting updated too. Cumulus evolves, the documentation I've read has been fine. Its also actively contributed to, directly or indirectly, by other enthusiasts sharing their experience and work. We live on the net, if at first you don't succeed, GOOGLE it, the answers are all out there.

We are all here for fun and enjoyment, we all (mostly) do other things as our day to day careers, probably mostly unrelated to the weather, software or web sites.

If I was to need a fully documented step by step spoon fed guide for how to do everything I would honestly consider taking up a different hobby, the fun here is finding out, learning how to do it, seeing how someone else did it and looking to see how to apply it to our own sites.

I spent many hours trying to get my station working reliably with Cumulus via USB, Steve, who openly says he cant not support this, tried hard with me to make some progress. I only wish some commercial support I've been on the receiving end was as willing to help.

Bottom line, Cumulus is truly a great bit of software and I cant thank Steve enough for sharing it and continuing to develop it further. I'm looking forward to C2 and enjoying my hobby.

sjukmidlands · **Posted:** Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:19 pm

Well spoken! I totally agree, and am sure almost all others using Cumulus do too! Well done to Steve! :clap:

dhrandy · **Posted:** Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:38 pm

Thanks for the great software (Cumulus 1). I hope you do eventually do come out with Cumulus 2. I love the look of the new interface. Hopefully you haven't given up on this project. Again thanks.

steve · **Posted:** Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:36 am

dhrandy wrote:

I love the look of the new interface. Hopefully you haven't given up on this project. Again thanks.

I seem to be working on it again - it's in the middle of a bit of a restructure. Hopefully there will be a new version to try before too long.

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