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 Post subject: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:21 am 
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Hi,
I've a pce-fws20 station and it work very well, but i'v 2 problem with cumulus.

The first is that when i restart the program, the minimal temp e and the pressure are 0 and they are recorder in to the dayfile and is a problem form my statistics

The second problem is that the scrren display of station show the correct pressure, while cumulus no. For example. at the moment the display show 1023mb while for cumulus 1012mb :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:32 am 
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meteosp wrote:
The first is that when i restart the program, the minimal temp e and the pressure are 0 and they are recorder in to the dayfile and is a problem form my statistics

You get the zero reading every time you start Cumulus, so every day has the minimum values of zero? Please zip up the diags folder and attach it, along with your dayfile.txt file.

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The second problem is that the scrren display of station show the correct pressure, while cumulus no. For example. at the moment the display show 1023mb while for cumulus 1012mb
Have you read the FAQ? http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/a/FAQ#Cumulus_doesn.E2.80.99t_show_the_same_pressure_as_my_Fine_Offset_console

When I look at your diags file I'll be able to see if that is the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:04 am 
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Hi,

in attach diag folder and dayfile.txt inside.

I'm connect 24/24 and a don't need to start culums daily but sometimes, and when do it cumuls when start show 0.0°c and get the time of starting prgram, so for all day if you see may statistics result that, for example, the minumin temp ad 12:34 is 0.0

For pressure in display is correct because is the same of other station near me, however i read the FAQ

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:53 am 
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You have your Windows time format set to a 12 hour clock but without any am or pm indicators:

28/03/12 22.05.25.062 . Short time format: 10.05
28/03/12 22.05.25.062 . Long time format: 10.05.25

Cumulus can't cope with this because it can't tell the difference between morning and night, so it doesn't know when it was last closed down. It's doing day rollovers when it doesn't need to, which is why you are getting entries with zeroes in them, and duplicate entries for one day:

28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 54 of dayfile.txt: 04/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 55 of dayfile.txt: 04/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 57 of dayfile.txt: 05/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 60 of dayfile.txt: 07/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 62 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 63 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 64 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 68 of dayfile.txt: 11/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 85 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 86 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.109 . Duplicate entry at line 87 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.109 . Duplicate entry at line 88 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file

It looks like you haven't set your relative (sea-level) pressure correctly on your station; your sea-level pressure is lower than your station pressure, which would imply that you are underground:

28/03/12 22.06.05.312 . EWUSB: Read pressure values: rel=1014,2 abs=1021,2 offset =-7,0

Cumulus displays sea-level (relative) pressure, and you have been looking at your absolute pressure on the console. You need to set your relative pressure correctly and only use that.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:57 am 
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steve wrote:
You have your Windows time format set to a 12 hour clock but without any am or pm indicators:

28/03/12 22.05.25.062 . Short time format: 10.05
28/03/12 22.05.25.062 . Long time format: 10.05.25

Cumulus can't cope with this because it can't tell the difference between morning and night, so it doesn't know when it was last closed down. It's doing day rollovers when it doesn't need to, which is why you are getting entries with zeroes in them, and duplicate entries for one day:

28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 54 of dayfile.txt: 04/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 55 of dayfile.txt: 04/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 57 of dayfile.txt: 05/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 60 of dayfile.txt: 07/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 62 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 63 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 64 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 68 of dayfile.txt: 11/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 85 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 86 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.109 . Duplicate entry at line 87 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.109 . Duplicate entry at line 88 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file

Ok perfet, i've set correctly the time format in 24 hours
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It looks like you haven't set your relative (sea-level) pressure correctly on your station; your sea-level pressure is lower than your station pressure, which would imply that you are underground:

28/03/12 22.06.05.312 . EWUSB: Read pressure values: rel=1014,2 abs=1021,2 offset =-7,0

Cumulus displays sea-level (relative) pressure, and you have been looking at your absolute pressure on the console. You need to set your relative pressure correctly and only use that.

Ok, for this i must read the manual.
About you with the modification on time set will fix the problema about min temp in restart ok cumulus?


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:57 am 
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steve wrote:
You have your Windows time format set to a 12 hour clock but without any am or pm indicators:

28/03/12 22.05.25.062 . Short time format: 10.05
28/03/12 22.05.25.062 . Long time format: 10.05.25

Cumulus can't cope with this because it can't tell the difference between morning and night, so it doesn't know when it was last closed down. It's doing day rollovers when it doesn't need to, which is why you are getting entries with zeroes in them, and duplicate entries for one day:

28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 54 of dayfile.txt: 04/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 55 of dayfile.txt: 04/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 57 of dayfile.txt: 05/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 60 of dayfile.txt: 07/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 62 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 63 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 64 of dayfile.txt: 08/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 68 of dayfile.txt: 11/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 85 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.093 . Duplicate entry at line 86 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.109 . Duplicate entry at line 87 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file
28/03/12 22.06.41.109 . Duplicate entry at line 88 of dayfile.txt: 27/03/12. Please correct this by editing the file

Ok perfet, i've set correctly the time format in 24 hours
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It looks like you haven't set your relative (sea-level) pressure correctly on your station; your sea-level pressure is lower than your station pressure, which would imply that you are underground:

28/03/12 22.06.05.312 . EWUSB: Read pressure values: rel=1014,2 abs=1021,2 offset =-7,0

Cumulus displays sea-level (relative) pressure, and you have been looking at your absolute pressure on the console. You need to set your relative pressure correctly and only use that.

Ok, for this i must read the manual.
About you with the modification on time set will fix the problema about min temp in restart ok cumulus?


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:40 pm 
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meteosp wrote:
About you with the modification on time set will fix the problema about min temp in restart ok cumulus?
It should stop it happening again, yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:01 pm 
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Many many tank's for all, i hope to fix the problem with pressure


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:50 am 
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Goodmorning,
unluckly 've still problems.
I've change the tinme format but i've error on file dayfile.txt but i don't understund what is wrong..can you help me?

Other things....
Cumulus display del pressure on sea and the difference with rel is -7.0

28/03/12 22.06.05.312 . EWUSB: Read pressure values: rel=1014,2 abs=1021,2 offset =-7,0

If i modify cumulus.ini and add the line EWpressureoffset=7.0 i fix the problem?

I attach new diags folder with dayfile inside

Manu thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:07 am 
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meteosp wrote:
I've change the tinme format but i've error on file dayfile.txt but i don't understund what is wrong..can you help me?

What error? Your latest entry in dayfile.txt looks fine to me.

29/03/12;20,9;180;13.36;9,8;07.22;19,2;15.54;1006,8;23.37;1013,9;01.00;0,0;00.00;0,0;14,9;78,6;13,3;13.36;33;00.42;90;23.34;0,00;0,0;19,2;15.54;18,8;14.25;8,1;06.55;0,0;00.00;9,8;07.22;13,6;14.06;0,4;00.42;119;3,4;0,0

And if you've corrected your time format, you shouldn't have any more problems.

You still have duplicate entries in dayfile.txt, you need to remove them - is that the error you mean?

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Cumulus display del pressure on sea and the difference with rel is -7.0

28/03/12 22.06.05.312 . EWUSB: Read pressure values: rel=1014,2 abs=1021,2 offset =-7,0

If i modify cumulus.ini and add the line EWpressureoffset=7.0 i fix the problem?


Is (positive) 7 hPa the correct difference? If so, then yes, you could set that in Cumulus.ini. But you should set your station correctly too.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:42 pm 
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Hi,
unluckly after some days of good work, the problem of wrong minimal temp is present again. I've restarted cyumuls to a windows update and the minimal temp is 0.0 but the time format is corretc

Attacth the diags foder with the dayfile inside and a screen o error

I've see that when the problem is present, when open cumulus, there isn't the bar of downloading data

Thank's in advnce and sorry for may bad english


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:57 pm 
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What does the 'timestamp' line look like in your today.ini file? Windows is apparently interpreting the date 7/4/12 as 4/7/12:

07/04/12 16.17.12.546 . Read today file: Date = 07/04/12, LastUpdateTime = 04/07/12 16.16.00

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:21 pm 
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I've modified the date format, before restart cumuls, could you check my diags and dayfile.txt to see if now windows see the correct date?

many thank's


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:35 pm 
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I couldn't see anything wrong with your date format before, and it doesn't seem to have changed anyway. I changed my settings to be the same as yours; yours are:

07/04/12 16.48.07.953 . Locale = 1040 ITA: Italia (Italiano (Italia))
07/04/12 16.48.07.953 . List separator=; Decimal separator=, Date separator=/ Time separator=.

07/04/12 16.48.08.015 . Short date format: 07/04/12
07/04/12 16.48.08.015 . Long date format: sabato 7 aprile 2012
07/04/12 16.48.08.015 . Short time format: 16.48
07/04/12 16.48.08.015 . Long time format: 16.48.08

and mine are:

07/04/12 16.10.09.807 . Locale = 1040 ITA: Italy (Italian (Italy))
07/04/12 16.10.09.807 . List separator=; Decimal separator=, Date separator=/ Time separator=.

07/04/12 16.10.09.807 . Short date format: 07/04/12
07/04/12 16.10.09.807 . Long date format: sabato 7 aprile 2012
07/04/12 16.10.09.807 . Short time format: 16.10
07/04/12 16.10.09.807 . Long time format: 16.10.09

On your system, Windows thinks that 07/04/12 is the 4th of July:

07/04/12 16.48.28.203 . Read today file: Date = 07/04/12, LastUpdateTime = 04/07/12 16.45.00

but on mine it (correctly) thinks it's the 7th of April:

07/04/12 16.10.09.858 . Read today file: Date = 07/04/12, LastUpdateTime = 07/04/12 8.45.00

So I ask again, What does the 'timestamp' line look like in your today.ini file?

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with minimal temperature and barometre
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:12 pm 
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